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Nancy and Jack Starmer met at Frost Valley - yet another FV romance that led to a wonderful life-partnership - and I believe I'm right that Nancy was Nancy Oeschle, sister to Russ and Lee and Jane, all of whom were FV campers and staff. Jack Starmer, with John Giannotti, was the creator of Hirdstock. Jack's dad and brother Bill were very involved with Wawayanda in the early FV years. Bill went on to work for the Y and retired not long ago as a YMCA professional. As Jim Wilkes put it to me, "You can't overlook Bill Starmer. Why the west coast would sink into the ocean!"